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The mug shots break my fucking heart, too. Look at the woman on the left and think about what she was trying to do and how she feels being taken away from her children, and then look at the woman on the right and try not to punch something because PROBATION? Ugh.
@Bezor thanks for taking the time to explain that image to us all. you must have spent a great number hours researching and fact-finding... oh wait...
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...
@Bezor bezorbub! bezorker! We (in my home) spoke to Shanesha (the name in all the stories you scanned) on the phone yesterday (again), very nice lady! I hate it when people talk about people like they aren't people but instead POINTS to be made on the INTERNET.
Like you honestly give a shit about either of those people or those kids? You don't. I just highroaded you. It's fine.
Like you honestly give a shit about either of those people or those kids? You don't. I just highroaded you. It's fine.
@fisherdah I read the New Times article you linked, and it makes valid points, I think: the omitted the-kids-were-in-a-hot-car-in-Phoenix detail (100° per another source), and that Ms. Clouser's 16 years(!) of probation, plus her child was taken by CPS too. Those and the apparently incorrect "homeless" angle do smack of intentional Internet outrage goading. Now none of that mitigates what seems to be harsher treatment for a similar transgression on Ms. Taylor's part, but a leaving kids in a hot car is no small thing, however good her intentions.
Can I ask how you came to speak to her? Part of your job, or do you know her and this is just one of those "small world" things?
Can I ask how you came to speak to her? Part of your job, or do you know her and this is just one of those "small world" things?
@LordJohnWhorfin My wife runs a non-profit that, among other things, deals with issues surrounding the incarceration of mothers. It's very trying, emotional work that involves, again, among other things, suspending judgement and listening to real people tell real stories. Tough stories.
Shanesha reached out to my wife awhile back for support. Since then they've talked a number of times.The conversation I was vaguely referring to above happened recently, Shanesha talked to my 3 year old daughter on the phone. Not about jail or horrible racist this or that, but about shit 3 year olds talk about. Watching that conversation happen between this person that gets so much shit in the media and my adorable daughter reminds me that human beings sit on the receiving end of POINTS people make. And sometimes they get hurt and don't know what to do. And sometimes they talk to 3 year olds about Frozen.
Shanesha reached out to my wife awhile back for support. Since then they've talked a number of times.The conversation I was vaguely referring to above happened recently, Shanesha talked to my 3 year old daughter on the phone. Not about jail or horrible racist this or that, but about shit 3 year olds talk about. Watching that conversation happen between this person that gets so much shit in the media and my adorable daughter reminds me that human beings sit on the receiving end of POINTS people make. And sometimes they get hurt and don't know what to do. And sometimes they talk to 3 year olds about Frozen.
If AZ was some sort of shitty, crazy exception, maybe I wouldn't want to punch the entire fucking American judicial system, but no.